It is worth mentioning that if 1) the longer a woman’s sexual history, the worse off she is, AND 2) women can “gamed” in to attraction with a man then the fault would be completely removed from women for being sluts because they just followed their instinct and ultimately the fault lies with men for creating the problem of women with long sexual histories. So ultimately, some self restriction needs to be applied because unfettered, no one will end up in a happy situation since 1) men dislike women with long sexual histories AND 2) men will pursue sex with many different women. I haven’t really seen anyone discussing this.
Women have control over themselves, even in the presence of great game. YaReally and I argue about this. (But I’m right, lol.) The fault is with feminism, which has discouraged women from marrying young and, worse, encouraged women to have a SATC lifestyle before they do settle down. It’s not men’s fault for taking advantage of what women say they want, or how they act.
It is men’s fault if they misrepresent what they are looking for, and I’ll even go out on a limb to get flamed to say that I think NSA player types should stick to girls who are clearly fine with ONS or FWB, FB etc. That’s why I cringe when guys post about gaming a “good girl” through a couple dates to bang her but he’s not planning on sticking around. I think that sucks and guys who do that are officially part of the problem.
“Apples and oranges.”
Nope. Just a matter of degrees. If 2 + 2 = 4 then 200 + 200 = 400.
“If I’m in a relationship with a man I trust I am okay with trying a lot of things,”
Game is based on psychology and getting you to feel that same trust it takes you months to feel with someone else, instantly. The other day a random old guy I chatted with in a pub confessed to me that his wife is banging her personal trainer. The guy met me less than 10 minutes ago. Why would he tell me something like that? Because I know how to very quickly get his trust to where he feels like he’s known me for years, and lead the interaction.
“but no guy is going to get me to do something that’s against my morals and principles.”
Of course not. You’re a special flower. You aren’t susceptible to someone using an understanding of human psychology to make you do something you wouldn’t rationally do. You pay for a brand-name purse and high-heels because they’re just better for holding things and walking than a plastic bag and sneakers…you can’t be manipulated.
This is why we don’t listen to women. Because until you can admit that you’re fallible, all of your opinions on what you think and how you would theoretically react and what you feel are complete bullshit that no one should attach any kind of value to. Half the things you do, like, and believe were fed to you by society and media and you fall for it just like everyone else, myself included…the difference is I’m aware that I can be manipulated. You were fed the fantasy that you’re “special”. That’s why Scray is saying “you can’t even admit that a guy has made you do something you don’t want to do?” Because we all know you’re talking out your ass.
“And I don’t even WANT to be in a gangbang. It’s not like I’m even tempted.”
And these people probably weren’t tempted to torture people and if you had asked them ahead of time if they WANTED to they would have said no…until the right circumstances occured:
But you’re different. You’re a special flower who’s infallible, those people were all idiots or psychopaths. That delusion is why no one should listen to you.
i’m taking the ex/fb to toronto for the night. hotel’s booked.
we were texting today and she offhandedly stated that she’s going to a cottage tonight. for the night. obviously a guys’ cottage.
with the help of a commenter here i replied ‘neat. have fun!’
she replied saying thanks etc and “mabes we’ll hang out tomorrow.”
i feel like this girl is taking me for granted/not appreciative of the fact that i booked a fucking hotel in dtown toronto.
i’ve tried to take other buddies, but it’s too short notice etc..
should i mention this to her and take her, or don’t take her, briefly tell her why, and head solo.
I think you should say nothing at all and when she brings it up (“what time are we leaving?”) tell her offhandedly you decided to bag it and go to your buddy’s bachelor party or something.
But… what’s up with you two? If she’s a fb does she know you expect her to not sleep with others? I thought that was ok in a fb arrangement…?
“we dated for 2 years – been once/twice a weekers since march.”
THIS stupid chick? You’re still chasing her around expecting her to give a fuck? Jesus. And buying her a hotel room FFS.
“i feel like this girl is taking me for granted/not appreciative of the fact that i booked a fucking hotel in dtown toronto.”
No shit. What a shock she’s taking you for granted, who could’ve seen THAT coming?? Ohh, right:
I’m not even going to write a new comment because you don’t listen, so here’s some cut & paste from that link:
“But hey, maybe she’ll change. I mean, you’ve given her incentive to change right? You’ve rewarded her with more attention and you chasing her and telling her you’re too attracted to her to let her go. So of COURSE she won’t keep doing what she’s doing even though it’s completely working to keep your attention. I mean, every time you punch me, if I give you $1,000, you’re going to decide to stop punching me right?
“look, my inner game is weak with fresh exs.”
ya, clearly, so DON’T hang out with them. Don’t try to make them fuckbuddies. My inner game is weak at eating donuts, so I don’t go to a bakery and order a dozen donuts and sit them beside my computer while I’m typing this. Fuckin guy lol
See your problem is that you KNOW you’re fucking up, because you keep telling everyone you’re fucking up, but you don’t actually wanna FIX anything. You don’t want to actually CHANGE. You just want to dissolve responsibility from yourself by blaming your “inner game” and “getting sucked into it”. Nothing is your fault so it’s okay! Hand me those donuts someone brought to the office, it’s not MY fault if they go in my mouth because I didn’t bring them to the office nom nom nom!!”
“im doing this to end the high school chase-me-if-you-can! games.”
No, you’re doing it to prolong it because your deep down scarcity mentality (because you don’t have any other quality options available right now) is secretly hoping that she’ll say “ok, I won’t fuck any other guys and I’ll suck your dick 10x a day and not bring you any drama even though there’s nothing in my history to suggest that I would ever actually stick to any of this lol”.
If you were ACTUALLY trying to end it, her number would be deleted right now and you would be going to the gym at a different time and you would be avoiding the clubs she’s in for the summer even if that’s inconvenient for you.
Go fuck ten other women of equal or higher quality.”
Delete her number. Go out in Toronto and approach some chicks to take back to your nice hotel room. Bring your bros and go find chicks together. Sit alone in the hotel room and masturbate with your tears while you order porn and a pizza. Cancel the hotel room. Give the hotel room to a homeless man. Give it to a buddy and his girlfriend. Take the money loss. Do fucking anything that isn’t chasing this stupid girl around who will continue to make you look like a chump. You’re better than this.
went on 2 dates with a girl, now for 3rd date i invited her to my place to watch a movie…she replies ‘hmm is that your best offer?’
wats my response, im tempted to just do a massive takeaway and say ‘actually forget it, goodbye’ or just go total silence
on the other hand a simple ‘yes’ might be the best response here to pass the test and have her agree to come over
she initiates texting with me so she is keen, i think cause she knows my player history she has her guard up
Standard shit-test. Agree & amplify. Say “well I was going to offer to push you up against the back of my door as I pin your wrists over your head with one hand, slowly tracing the fingertips of my other hand down the curves of your body, my beard grazing your cheek as I lightly nibble on your neck before throwing you on my bed to ravish you. But I figured a movie would be less intimidating for a shy girl.”
Whole bunch of game theory packed into that one. Field-tested a shitload because I get a lot of ASD because I tend to move quickly and trigger it then handle it VS moving slower and not triggering it so I have to recover from being “too forward” a lot.
If she agrees to come over “for a movie”, don’t mention anything sexual at all until she’s standing in front of you in your apartment or you’ll trigger her ASD (so no “ok cool I’ll set up the videocameras do you like doggy style or missionary?” talk, just pretend you legit have a movie and that you were just making fun of her with that text, you’ll both know what’s up and don’t need to verbalize it).
If she texts anything that isn’t playing along with coming over, like she wants you to take her to dinner or or out in public or whatever, total radio silence for one week no matter what she texts (unless it’s “ok I’ll come over”) so she gets the gift of missing you, then act like nothing happened and you were just busy with work and push for her coming over again.
There’s no reason after TWO dates that she shouldn’t be coming over to your apartment. That’s an indicator that either:
1) she’s super frigid (at least to the point where it isn’t worth your time unless you don’t mind dating for a month to get the lay which some guys are cool with, I just don’t have the time/money for that)
2) your game on your dates was super lame/beta (but that’s doubtful because she’s still chasing you, so you must have done decent enough)
3) you weren’t alpha fux enough on your dates and she sees you as a beta bucks and is lining you up for dates and putting you on the provider/relationship path instead of the sex path and seeing how much she can get out of you (a really bitchy golddigger type will txt similar stuff like “a trip to paris? is that your best offer?” and fish for as much as possible)
or 4) she likes you and is just a little nervous with slight ASD about coming over and just needs you to lol at her shit-test and not back-down but make her feel comfortable about coming over.
My guess is #4, thus my text response above.
Surprised there’s a comment of the week at all, what with the good commenters being driven off by spammers and 50 incoherent Zombie Shane flames per thread. Reading comments from as recently as six months ago and it’s a different world.
Where did YaReally go? I came here for his posts mostly.
I figure Zombie Shane, Greg, gsg, and the other guys dropping pages and pages of super high-quality comments I have to scroll through have got things handled around here these days.
Just kidding, I’m out having continuous sex with 17 19-year old HB11’s I met in clubs YOU can’t get into, despite my flabby belly, 5’6 stature, balding pate and the fact that I ride a mofa. I do, after all, have ‘game’, dontcha know.